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以色列軍隊無人機領先地位受伊朗挑戰
伊朗國防部長瓦希迪已經在14日對黎巴嫩真主黨派遣侵入以色列領空的無人機「認頭」{:23:} ，證實無人機是由伊朗製造並提供給真主黨向以色列搞「偷窺」 ;P 。美國、以色列的無人機經常忽略領空等法律問題，逾界向其他國家發動偵測甚至謀殺的任務，依靠的僅僅是無人機技術的領先！這一次的事件只是一個信號意味著美以無人機可以為所欲為的日子不能持續多久 :lol
Source: Slate
Original Title: With Israel’s Destruction of Drone, the Region’s Dynamics Have Changed Significantly
By John Villasenor Posted Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012, at 3:10 PM ET
The widely reported downing of an unmanned aerial vehicle that entered Israeli airspace on Oct. 6 demonstrates, in stark terms, how UAVs have the potential to upend long-held assumptions regarding the nature of Iran’s reach in the Middle East. For Israel, the stakes couldn’t be higher.
The UAV (industry experts dislike the term drone) arrived in Israeli airspace from over the Mediterranean, flying west to east in a trajectory that brought it “over settlements and military bases in the Negev” before it was shot down south of Hebron. In a video released by the Israeli Defense Forces, a missile fired from a fighter jet can be seen striking the interloper. Israeli officials believe the UAV may have been on a mission to perform surveillance of the Dimona nuclear plant.
The video shows that the UAV was flying at a sufficiently high altitude to allow use of an air-to-air missile. In addition, a size comparison with the missile in the video frames just before impact indicates that the UAV was fairly small, making Israel’s success at destroying it noteworthy.
The most fundamental questions, however, aren’t answered by the video: Where did it come from, and who launched it? If, as some are suggesting, it was made in Iran and launched from Lebanon by Hezbollah, that implies a range of at least several hundred miles.
As military-grade long-range UAVs go, distances of hundreds of miles are small potatoes. The Global Hawk used by the U.S. military for surveillance can travel 10,000 miles. Just last month, Iran claimed that its newly unveiled Shahed-129 UAV has a range of 1,250 miles, significantly more than the distance from Tehran to Tel Aviv.* However, Iranian government assertions regarding its military technology are often greeted with skepticism, and the regime’s credibility certainly wasn’t enhanced by the 2008 release of an apparently doctored photograph of a missile test.
By contrast, the Oct. 6 incident irrefutably shows that someone in the region has the ability to procure or develop a UAV and use it to penetrate deep into Israel’s airspace. The shoot-down demonstrates the Israeli military’s ability to detect, track, and successfully down a foreign UAV operating without authorization over its territory. But why was the UAV downed only after it had flown over settlements instead of being stopped at the shoreline? Would it even have been detected if it had been flying at extremely low altitudes or if it were smaller? Have there been previous incursions that went unnoticed?
Israel has long been concerned about the threat posed by Iranian ballistic missiles. But Israel’s Arrow anti-ballistic missiles, developed under a multibillion-dollar program funded in significant part by the United States, would do nothing at all to stop a UAV coming in low over the waters of the Mediterranean. The Iron Dome system, which is designed to intercept short-range rockets following a predictable trajectory, would do little better. Instead, it was an F-16 that was called in to dispatch the UAV over the Negev, and in the video the matchup isn’t even close. The UAV plods along, cannon fodder for the F-16 that appears briefly in the upper left corner at the end of the clip.
In the long run, however, manned fighter jets will be a very poor choice for defending against hostile UAV incursions. UAVs will eventually gain the advantage in agility and maneuverability—and in the ability to dodge and weave to avoid missiles intended to destroy them. Given that the entire country of Israel may now be within easy reach of Iranian UAVs launched from southern Lebanon, that’s a technology trend that has the potential to fundamentally alter the dynamics of the region.
More generally, this event underscores the globalization of UAV technology. Like manned airplanes, UAVs provide a long list of extremely beneficial civilian applications. And, like manned airplanes, UAVs have military uses as well, including enabling surveillance of another country’s sensitive facilities. The Israeli military has used UAV imagery for decades, including in the 1982 Lebanon War. Israel now finds itself looking at the cameras from the other side of the lens.
Correction, Oct. 7, 2012: This blog post originally said that 1,250 miles was significantly less than the distance from Tehran to Tel Aviv. That is significantly more than the distance between the two cities.
...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div><div></div> 無人機的技術原本就是會被超越~
只是領先到麼地步(倒是伊朗製造的無人機，中國有沒有支援啊)??{:3:}
又分為低中高空等級~~
只是目前的美國的~全球之膺~等級有其他國家做出來嗎???{:24:} 那個紅色的無人機好像V-1啊，是自殺無人機？ 做不做的出來是一回事
但是他能把美國的最新無人偵察機弄下來就是高手拉 li159 發表於 2012-10-16 11:53 AM static/image/common/back.gif
那個紅色的無人機好像V-1啊，是自殺無人機？
應該不是
雖然真主黨的確自製很多火箭攻擊以色列
但命中率和效果都有待加強(不高)
韓國近期有發展自殺無人機
但成本較高
應會用於高價值、重要目標
不太可能大量投入戰場
伊朗的挑戰?還很久吧?
以色列好歹也是最早研發無人機的國家之一(六十年左右)
這可不是遙控飛機(雖然像，但起源自靶機)
初期折損率超高(曾拿到台灣做交流，結果20架全報銷)
伊朗曾有造假飛彈發射的影片，又喜歡大(但又用電子方式奪得哨兵式無人偵察機)
性能如何很難說...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div><br><br><br><br><br><div></div> 真不知到伊朗的技術那來 如果說仿製技術不如中國 科技又不如美國 很好奇, 把無人機弄下來真的很難嗎?
以 Global Hawk 的體型來看, 加上無人機目前技術,
發現他並擊落, 應該不會太難!
是因為體型一般較小, 不容易被發現嗎? 自殺無人機....二戰晚期就有了？現在的無人戰機大多是常翼展+低速度的。如果非不夠高，很容易被打下來吧 本帖最後由 cj-cj 於 2012-10-18 12:04 AM 編輯
n803244 發表於 2012-10-17 08:41 AM http://www06.eyny.com/static/image/common/back.gif
很好奇, 把無人機弄下來真的很難嗎?
以 Global Hawk 的體型來看, 加上無人機目前技術,
發現他並擊落, 應該 ...
估計還是敢不敢打的問題.
老美去年曾經在阿富汗和中國的邊境, 放無人機偵查, 具体是什麼型號忘記了..
但無人機出現故障, 直往中國邊境飛過去, 最后老美不得不啟動自毀裝置, 讓無人機在到達中國邊境前墜毀.
實力前面, 小手段玩不轉....<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div> cj-cj 發表於 2012-10-18 12:04 AM static/image/common/back.gif
估計還是敢不敢打的問題.
老美去年曾經在阿富汗和中國的邊境, 放無人機偵查, 具体是什麼型號忘記了..
如果軍機侵入領空, 那打還是不打?
伊朗打下 坎達哈魔鬼, 應該不是在宣傳敢不敢, 而是在宣傳他打下了!
所以, 似乎重點還是很難打下來......<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div><br><br><br><br><br><div></div> 記得CNN不久前才在討論無人飛機的龐大產值，以及幾乎所有國家(包括恐怖分子)都在研發無人飛機，所以這則新聞也就不足為奇了。 無人機臺灣不是也有做嗎?
可是感覺好大就只是像高空拍照用而已...
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